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I'll tell you that after I buy it. The deal is the 2070 Super 8GB I can get is $30-35 cheaper than the 2060 12GB but I have to drive 45 minutes away to pick it up and the 2060 has to be shipped. And I have a 1440 monitor so I'd like to play at 1440 if I can.
I don't play any titles that depend on really high frame rates. I don't do any of the first person mmo shooters or cyberpunk or heavy demanding titles like that. I think the 8GB will be fine too but I will probably use this card for at least 3-4 years so my only concern is playing titles that come out between now and then.
I think the 8Gig will last for awhile.
Thats a very good point.
To be fair, that's most people's goal is to run things on Ultra (RT is a different story IMO). He will undoubtedly need to turn down some settings in games like that sooner than later. 8GB is the minium I'd have on tap today for 1440p gaming.
Put into those terms, the 1650 4GB I'm currently using will do. It plays everything I want to play with no lag, I'm getting 40-60 fps and everything still looks and runs good in everything that I play and I don't play anything that requires extremely snappy response timing.
I mean..... it depends. It's not black and white. There are plenty of titles where 8GB is eclipsed at 4K. That said, not all titles that breach your vRAM capacity respond the same way. Some titles allocate what it can, but may not use it all, so a card with lesser capacity may still perform well. Others need everything it allocates and takes a hit when passing that mark. So while 'everything else' is a big problem, vRAM is, without a doubt a valid consideration. 8GB vs. 12GB could be the difference between playable and not in specific titles. The higher the res and the higher the setttings you want, the more potential to go past that amount. For giggles, I took screenshots from TPU's recent game reviews that show vRAM use. I went back to 2023 skipping only CS2 b/c, well, that looks like my kid drew it and not made for beauty, but tick rate.
IMO 12 gig to 16 gig to me is enough to play 1440p games at max or high settings and 8 gigs with lower setting and 1080p.I mean..... it depends. It's not as black and white. There are plenty of titles where 8GB is eclipsed at 4K. That said, not all titles that breach your vRAM capacity respond the same way. Some titles allocate what it can, but may not use it all, so a card with lesser capacity may still perform well. Others need everything it allocates and takes a hit when passing that mark. So while 'everything else' is a big problem, vRAM is, without a doubt a valid consideration. 8GB vs. 12GB could be the difference between playable and not in specific titles. The higher the res and the higher the setttings you want, the more potential to go past that amount. For giggles, I took screenshots from TPU's recent game reviews that show vRAM use. I went back to 2023 skipping only CS2 b/c, well, that looks like my kid drew it and not made for beauty, but tick rate.
At 4K, there's no way I'd go less than 12GB today for best results over the lifespan of the card and assuming you're shooting for 'ultra' gaming. YMMV of course depending on what titles you play, the settings, and the basic horsepower of the card in the first place, but me, I'm going higher than 8GB for the games I play..... if I played at 4K.
I mean..... it depends. It's not black and white. There are plenty of titles where 8GB is eclipsed at 4K. That said, not all titles that breach your vRAM capacity respond the same way. Some titles allocate what it can, but may not use it all, so a card with lesser capacity may still perform well. Others need everything it allocates and takes a hit when passing that mark. So while 'everything else' is a big problem, vRAM is, without a doubt a valid consideration. 8GB vs. 12GB could be the difference between playable and not in specific titles. The higher the res and the higher the setttings you want, the more potential to go past that amount. For giggles, I took screenshots from TPU's recent game reviews that show vRAM use. I went back to 2023 skipping only CS2 b/c, well, that looks like my kid drew it and not made for beauty, but tick rate.
At 4K, there's no way I'd go less than 12GB today for best results over the lifespan of the card and assuming you're shooting for 'ultra' gaming. YMMV, of course, depending on what titles you play, the settings, and the basic horsepower of the card in the first place, but me, I'm going higher than 8GB for the games I play..... if I played at 4K (or even 1440p).
100% there is NOT a misunderstanding in my interpretation. I would however say there was a 100% chance you misinterpreted mine. I'd even go as far as saying we agree.....and you added details supporting those thoughts.There's a general misunderstanding in your interpretation of those TPU results (since I actually play those games): That's just how much vRAM those games use IF YOU HAVE IT. I never had that much vRAM... and I've been playing CyberPunk, in 4K, since back when I had a 4GB 960 GTX (which, I'm proud to say, I still own).
If you DON'T have 12GB of vRAM... then all those games will just use whatever you have. So it's not like "Oh I only have 8GB of vRAM... the game won't work..."
It doesn't work that way.
I wasn't talking that games simply "will not work/load". By playable, I was talking about the 60 FPS threshold people generally shoot for (and again, I'm well aware that for some titles, you can get away with less and still have a solid gaming experience).
Agree. That was covered in this passage...
You're not wrong (that most users are running 8GB cards). But I think the significant part you're missing (that I've mentioned in other threads to you) is that ~3% of Steam gamers have a 4K monitor. I'd also venture to say that most people who have a 4K monitor are not rocking entry-level graphics cards for that resolution and shooting for less than ultra (that is the ultimate goal, right? - if you have the horsepower, that's generally where you try to set things). Surely you aren't alone, but I can't image it's common for gamers to go 4K with literally the least expensive current-gen GPU.
QFT. The reviews I took those screenshots from (in the spoiler tags) state as much too. Some games had a message below that vRAM chart saying *see how it responds in the conclusion... and goes on to discuss what performance was like when surpassing those values. It varied.
